Excerpts from the article [with my comments added].
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — Off-duty Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Sergeant C. Bradley Shivers shot his neighbor's dog in the head Friday afternoon after the dog wandered into his backyard through a hole in the fence. [A head shot! Now, THAT is some serious gun control!]
Sgt. Shivers was the one who called police, and he explained to on-duty officers that the dog, named Goose, had ran into his backyard through a hole in his fence while he and his family were around the pool. [Aww.... Goose just wanted to join the pool party!]
According to police, Sgt. Shivers told officers he promptly found a rake and attempted to run the dog off. He said he'd had several run ins with the animal and a rake usually did the trick.
However, according to Sgt. Shivers, the dog would not 'back down' and kept circling his pool, barking with aggression. [Hey, I thought only Pit Bulls acted aggressively????]
After that, Sgt. Shivers ran into his home and retrieved his agency-approved personal Glock .27 with JSO-issued rounds inside. Before opening fire, Sgt. Shivers told police that he tried to scare the dog off again with a rake.
At this time, Sgt. Shivers slipped in the soft dirt around his pool deck and fell, according to police. Sgt. Shivers then told police the dog lunged at him - and he opened fire, hitting the dog in the head. [I'd be glad to know him! (the cop not the dog)]
Just after the shot was fired, Goose's owner, Chelsea Pavish, 23, came over to Sgt. Shivers's backyard.
Lets stop for a longer comment. This dog owner REGULARLY harasses her neighbors with her dog, refusing to control it in any way. They typical dog owning assumption being, everyone can kiss my dog's ass and the hell with everyone else! She doesn't do a damn thing to control her dog until a gun goes off!
If your dog is trespassing and threatening a neighbor, you IMMEDIATELY stop what you are doing and fetch the dog. If you have to shoot the dog YOURSELF, then so be it.
Pavish claims there are problems in Sgt. Shivers's narrative of the events, wondering how, if the dog was so aggressive and such a threat, he could run inside and find a gun before trying to shoo it away with a rake. She was not a witness to the shooting, however.
The problem, you dog loving shithead, was that you let your dog run wild and could care less about the harm it brought to others. The man ran inside to get his gun BECAUSE his family was still outside AND he is under no obligation to surrender HIS backyard to you and your dog! He went for the gun because Goose was too nasty and too stupid to have any sense beaten into him with a rake.
Pavish claims she's never had any problems with Sgt. Shivers in the past. Pavish blamed Sgt. Shivers saying the officer had a broken fence that he neglected to fix.
Again, Pavish is your typical narcissistic, totally self-absorbed, dog worshiping social parasite. Yes, SHE did not have any problems with HIM prior to the shooting because it was HER dog harassing HIM on HIS property! This is a variation of the "Its not bothering me" excuse that owners of yard barkers deploy from time to time. Again, as long as the dog and the owner get what THEY want, its all good! I'm sure Pavish expected the neighbors to wait until the dog sent somebody to the hospital, at which point she would have blamed the victim.
Moreover, in regards to the fence: Listen carefully dog people -YOU are obligated to keep your dogs confined to YOUR space. WE are not obligated to keep them out of ours! We have an unconditional right to dog free private properties!
I am 100% on the side of the shooter on this one. Pavish, the dog owner, owns this result flat out. She not only owned a nasty ass dog but she neglected to control it. This was a repeat offender and no mercy or flexibility should have been given. Dog owners - if you fail to control your dogs, someone else will and you may not like what they do.
Don't forget to check out the "Justice for Goose" Facebook page. While good, its not a true classic like WMBC.
CONTROL YOUR DOGS!
[Update on 6/11]
"The Breed Switcheroo"
Consider the related Care2 page soliciting signatures for.... what? I am not sure exactly. What is the penalty for shooting a nasty-ass dog on your own land? I would say NOTHING in most places, just as it should be.
Note that the page has collected nearly 74,000 signatures as I write this. Interestingly, this is about the same number of "likes" that dear St. Mick got on his FB page.
In any case, Goose's owner has been claiming he is a "Basset Hound", and this was the picture put on the Care2 page:
The dog indicated in the photo above was/is not the dog involved in the Jacksonville shooting incident. It appears to be a stock photo of a basset hound.
BELOW are photos of the actual Goose, taken from the same site and other news sites:
It is readily apparent that Goose is (was? LOL!) not a basset hound. If Goose is a basset hound, I am freaking Godzilla. While it might be tough to say what he IS, its pretty easy to say what he ISN'T.
I could care less if this was the first time the dog had broken into this guy's yard to menace the neighbors. Glad it will be the last. Sounds like the owner knew EXACTLY what it meant when she heard the gunshot, she knew it was because of her dog. It would be nice to see AC write the woman a ticket as well for having a loose, aggressive dog.
ReplyDeleteYou could care less? Not me! I *couldn't* care less!
DeleteYou could care less? Not me! I *couldn't* care less!
DeleteIn my utter magnanimity, I might be able to care less. But, not much.
DeleteIn all seriousness, I should emphasize that this particular dog owner clearly did not give a crap about her dog. At large dogs are at risk for all sort of problems: hit by cars, fights with other animals, falls, eating trash or other articles that might be poisonous. The list goes on. In any case, her reckless behavior finally bit her on the ass and now she wants to blame someone else.
Indeed, I could hardly care less.
Dogs used to get out and tip over trash cans now they get out and maul and kill humans and other pets.
ReplyDeleteCare2 - Chelsea's dog, Goose, was shot and killed by her...
ReplyDeleteOddly this shows a picture of a basset hound not the pit mix in the FB page. Are there two Gooses that have been cooked ?
Are there two Gooses that have been cooked ?
DeleteProbably. The same issue came up with "Gus" the supermauler. I had difficulty getting background on Gus because there were TWO celebrity pitbulls named Gus on death row at the same time.
I estimate that the "Goose" in the article above is some sort of low-content pit mix, though the precise breed backgrounds are debatable.
I took a look at the Care2 page. More misleading crap. Pavish is a stranger to truth. The Justice for Goose people are lying about breed background to drum up more sympathy. In any case. In any case, while it relates to the same case, the photo on the Care2 page is of a generic basset hound NOT the dog that was shot.
DeleteWhile Goose's precise breed backgound is debatable, Goose is (was? LOL) not a basset hound. The trademark squat body, long floppy ears and other indicators are not there.
She should have claimed Goose was a "lab mix". It looks like he had at least some pit in him to me. You're right about him not being a basset, not at all. He doesn't look like a full blooded pit (is there such a thing) but I've never seen a basset who looked like that.
DeleteEileen, I would argue a well contained basset should only be a problem for the owners. Usually they're lazy and very stubborn, but when kept from running, not much of a problem. It sounds like the one you knew had the typical worthless dog owners. I imagine mixing one with a pit would create a way less than ideal mix. Combine the hunting instinct with the fighting instinct and you could have a very nasty little beast.
There is a video on http://www.copblock.org/128787/off-duty-cop-shoots-neighbors-dog-in-head/
DeleteGoose was a rescue dog that she'd had for only four months, so it could hardly be regarded as a treasured family pet. But LOL! I can't help wondering if the shelter told her it was a basset hound mix because they were trying to offload pits! That dog's head in some of the photos looks very similar shape-wise to the Mickster's head in that photo of it in the cage awaiting its non-destruction after it mauled Kevin.
In the video it's stated that another neighbour's dog wanders into the cop's yard (and presumably everyone else's) all the time and she's never had a problem with him. Well, yeah, but this dog probably isn't a basset hound (chortle! snigger!) regardless of the fact that the owner shouldn't be letting it wander into other people's yards in the first place.
It beggars belief that something as insignificant as someone shooting a dog on their own property makes it on to TV in the first place.
Trisha. yes well this dog could bay with the best of the mind numbing barkers. Very resonate. Brought a richness to the otherwise shrill mindless yapping of the cocker spaniels. There were a few mutts that added their own notes to the chorus. The pit bull they kept on a tire chain never barked , it just killed any animal that got within it's grasp including the dogs it was raised with.
DeletePits are often victims of progressive confinement. This one ended its days in a 4x6 kennel by jumping on the dog house and leaping over the top. Hung itself. Since it was wearing the high test horse halter I gave them as a harness for it I'm guessing compression suffocation.
One of the reasons never talked about with pits and the abuse they receive. Trying to contain the beast.
The baying is the fault of the owners. Again, we didn't let our dogs bark. One got out a few times, because my sisters flat out ignored me telling them not to open the door, both times, Ollie was right beside them. She was caught and brought home right away. I don't believe in letting animals be a problem. As for that pit,quite a few hang themselves. Probably trying to kill some innocent creature, they're too stupid to realize they can no longer get over the fence. It sounds like you're had terrible neighbors and for that I'm very sorry. For the record Ollie is a beagle /lab mix and didn't threaten anyone, but I didn't want her popping in or otherwise destroying anyone's property. Sometimes accidents happen no matter what. After the second time, my daughter kept Ollie in her room anytime they came over. That way, she couldn't get out again.
DeleteIf your dog , or cat views an open door as an invitation to rush out they are not trained. I call it swarming at the door. It's unattractive in pets and small children. Both of which have led to children in the road and pets being dispatched by fed up neighbors who don't think Chompy's snarl is harmless or passing cars that make a meat puddle out of it.
DeleteIf doors are open for an extended time pets should be crated or confined to their secure yards.
Yes accidents happen. There are ways to make sure there are far fewer accidents. I am not pointing at you. I have been to homes where you had to fight your way in the door with some moron yelling don't let the dog out as it crashes between your legs. I have since removed myself from such situations.
As for my neighbors I hit the jackpot of animal crackpots. They have compiled in their one family setting nearly every issue in the issues of pet /livestock control that society is dealing with as a whole. There dogs have been silent and either in their yard or they have disposed of them. I don't care. Millions of people manage to take care of their pets without becoming a public menace.
to date neither of the adults in that house have written a letter, email , text , called or walked over and apologized for their dog being so untrained and unruly and running at large it felt empowered to try and invade my home and kill my pet. They threw the gauntlet down with years of uncivilized behavior and this time I picked it up and shoved it up their ass.
The two times it happened, OIlie had indicated she needed to go out, I was going to get her leash. As each sister opened the door, and walked out to the porch she followed. I think she realized she was free and started to run, once only down the steps, she stopped when I said her name. The second time she made it down the side street, and it took ten minutes to track her down. After that I made sure it wouldn't happen again. That sister told me she didn't see the big deal, she just lets her dog out to go wherever it wants and it comes back, so she thought Ollie would be fine. For all I know, she called the dog outside while I was getting the leash. True she had never been taught not to go out a door, but we'd never just let her out. We took steps to keep it from happening again.
DeleteNobody, ever has a right to let their animal invade your property and menace or harm you or your pet. I wouldn't put up with it either. Making the choice to have animals, doesn't entitle anyone to special treatment. As a pet owner, I have to make the choice to make sure my animals never trouble you. Granted, the current lot of small, caged rodents is easier than dogs or cats, but still, dogs and cats should be kept in their yards unless being walked, and should be quiet, or quieted down immediately if they do make noise. I guess for my rodents, the main thing is not letting them chew anything up that could damage our apartment. That's easy, when they're out, they're not allowed to run free and get to wires or woodwork.
Basset Hounds are obstinate to say the least. Crossed with a pit I have no idea what anyone was thinking. I'm sure there was no thinking just unfixed mutts running loose.
ReplyDeleteMy older neighbors had one. It got loose often. I hated touching it. It felt fat and greasy. You cannot pull them or push let alone pick up and carry. It chased a cat ( one of theirs) into an outside storage by busting out the lower panel on the door. I had to beat it with a shovel to get it to leave. It spent a lot of spare time tryingg to get in my rabbit cages. Again you had to get pretty physical with it for the thing to back off. I was nicer then Today I'd just shoot it.
Cross that tenacity with the brutal instincts of a bully dog and it's easy to see it as being aggressive.
I have suggested many times that if our county were to pick up and run the chips in all the dead dogs on the roads and fine the owners 500$ for animal cruelty for letting the dogs roam they would not be begging for pet food constantly.
"I have suggested many times that if our county were to pick up and run the chips in all the dead dogs on the roads and fine the owners 500$ for animal cruelty for letting the dogs roam they would not be begging for pet food constantly."
DeleteThat is a good policy, but I doubt it will see the light of day during this "dog-craze". Dog culture demands that the DRIVER is responsible. Indeed, they fervently believe that the purpose of a road is for dogs to play in NOT for vehicles to pass.
There is now yet another FB link ot a pit being disposed of. Shot by an evil cop who was just looking I'm sure to find a way to ruin his career and receive heaps of hate mail and death threats. The one sided twaddle from the dog owners is sickening.
ReplyDeleteIf your dog is loose even in your yard and behaving in a threatening way you have no one to blame but yourself for not having it contained and under control.
I agree and expressed the very sentiment to AC I am not going to wait for one of the neighbors dogs to bite me in order for them to get a ticket that their dog is now dangerous while there will be no legal remedy for me to sue for even the medical bills. If you dog is on the prowl and someone takes it out it was the dice your rolled when you opened the door and let them run out. Dogs are not entitled to due process. I don't have to wait to see if they're going to follow through with an attack to defend myself. Neither does a police officer.
I wrote about the retired pilot that lives around the corner having a run-in with the drug dealer's pit bull while walking his dogs awhile back. Well, that turned out like I expected. Nothing is going to happen. The drug dealers are refusing to take any responsibility for their dog and the pilot isn't willing to press the issue. The pilot bought a walking stick with a built-in stun gun and that's the end of that.
ReplyDeleteThe funny part is the pilot is shocked the drug dealers are actually blaming him and his dog for the whole ordeal. They claim his dog's barking provoked their dog and the only reason the pilot was bitten was because he was hitting and kicking their dog – “our dog was defending itself.”
Dog people are so delusional.
A little good news, though. The bank finally got tired of playing around with the idiots behind me and foreclosed on their house. They moved out three weeks ago and took their three useless, bark at anything and everything dogs with them. After two years I can sleep through the entire night without being jarred awake by barking and can work in my own yard without wearing ear plugs or headphones. Doesn't seem like something someone should actually feel grateful for, but...
It's probably too much to ask that the next people who move in don't own a dog. I just hope they have at least some control over the thing.
RE: Your neighbors with the yard barkers. That is excellent news. Isn't it such a huge relief? I remember when the crazy dog people across the street from me gave up their dogs.... the noise level dropped tremendously.
DeleteHey, do you have a "handle"? I don't insist commenters use their full names (obviously - I do not) but I'd prefer regular commenters use some sort of unique identifier. Under "reply as" just select "name/url" and put in your handle.
Thanks for writing.
Yeah, it's a huge relief. I physically feel better not having to deal with the constant noise.
DeleteThis weekend will be the fourth week since they moved and there's a stake truck at the house right now moving trash out. FOUR WEEKS! and they're still cleaning up after these idiots. The outside looked like a dump, the inside must be a wreck.
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ReplyDeleteWhy don't the dog lovers attack the dog owner for letting their dog run loose with as much venom as the victims who have to dispatch the vicious dog ?
ReplyDelete" Why don't the dog lovers attack the dog owner for letting their dog run loose with as much venom as the victims who have to dispatch the vicious dog ?
DeleteThis is the topic of my next article. It is rather pithy.
Because dog lovers are all about dogs. People don't matter.
DeleteIt's not really about the dogs, though. There's some kind of personality defect or projection or something going on with dog people. For some reason they need that unconditional love, blind loyalty they keep droning on about to make them feel better about themselves. I haven't figured it out, but there's something more going on than just owning a dog.
DeleteA few years ago I wrote about how being a "dog person" gave some people a sense of identity, of belonging. A cult, it is.
DeleteWhich is why I call it the Cult of Dog.
DeletePeople don't attack the owners because the owners are always playing on some suckers sympathy. Oh my poor dog was just being a dog and this cruel asshole killed it for no reason. Now my kids are without their doggy all because their kid had the nerve to be outside, in their own yard, and our doggy wanted to play with (maul) their kid. After all, just doing normal things might provoke Fido, but it's not the owner's fault you walked by with your stroller, and their dog got out. It's your fault for having a kid, walking by their yard, and oh you evil person, you shot their dog rather than let it eat your baby. I like dogs because I enjoy their companionship, however, I don't want any pet that I ever have to be a problem. When the potential for a problem came up with our dog getting out twice, we took steps to fix it. The odd thing, is that dog never ran out on anyone else, and she hasn't since then.
Delete"People don't attack the owners because the owners are always playing on some suckers sympathy.
DeleteThat is a good observation. Many people who share an interest, dog ownership in this example, are going to derive an identity from that. It is how they self-actualize. To a varying degree, its literally who they are.
Now, people with the same identity often have an affinity for one another. There is a tendency to bond over the interest or shared value (or whatever you want to call it). The arbitrarily defined group can become like an extended family. When one member of the "family" is in trouble, you would expect at least some of the other "family" members to rally around them. Indeed, they have a lot of sympathy for one another. And, that is what you see going on here with the Care2 page and the like.
There is nothing necessarily wrong with identity or affinity, per se. However, in the case of dog owners it has evolved from identity, to conceit, to a full blown supremacy movement - i.e. we are better than everyone else.... because we love/own dogs. Pursuant to an article I wrote a few years ago, their behavior and attitude often resembles that of medieval aristocracy: I.E. "How dare that filthy rabble shoot my dog! Draw and quarter the peon immediately!".
Thanks for writing.
I'm 100% positive Goose was a pit mix passed off as a "basset hound" by the shelter where she got it. Shelters and many private sellers call pits the most ludicrous breeds. Pitbull-mutt with longer ears than a full-blooded pit? Let's call it a BASSET HOUND, seeing how basset hounds have longer ears than any other breed.
ReplyDeleteLook at Goose's fur, how it's so short it looks shaved and you can even see the skin straight through it (gross). That combined with the body and head shape (albeit narrower than usual) set off pitbull flags to me.
DeleteIt's obvious looking at the dog it is some mix of a bully breed. Of course the pictures never really let you get a good look at it. Clever.
DeleteShelters have a choice. It can either be listed as a pit/mix which landlords and homeowners insurance often refuse to have around or cover or be called a basset hound /mix which is a more acceptable breed.
"It's obvious looking at the dog it is some mix of a bully breed. Of course the pictures never really let you get a good look at it. Clever."
DeleteThis is (un)surprisingly common in the various "spot the pit bull" games floating around the Internet. They make it look like pit bulls can't be identified, are unfairly maligned. Funny thing, I played several of these games as a kid and got them all right on the first try.
......which leads to irony. I could be very, very wrong about this, but something about Goose's coat and the general shape of his head, face, and ears makes me think he might be crossed with a Fila Brasiliero somewhere. Filas are closely related to Cuban bloodhounds, which are scarce if not extinct. Cuban bloodhounds were a common plantation mastiff backintheday, feared by slaves as literal man-eaters. The English bloodhound everyone knows would track escaping slaves. Cuban bloodhounds would hunt them. Fila Brasilieros aren't as connected to this history, but they are known for strongly distrusting strangers. A Fila that acts aggressively toward judges in dog shows do NOT get docked points--not the kind of dog I'd want as a next-door neighbor.
Yeah, I was thinking pit/lab mix. Pit owners think their dogs are entitled to one free mauling. NOT. If you don't want your canine IED shot be a responsible owner and keep the POS locked up on YOUR property. Problem solved.
DeleteJust on the local news the adoptable animal off the week, is clearly a pit mix. They didn't even mention breed. Gets along with cats, a big lap dog, loves kids, but prefers females and female dogs. I see that strategy too. Reading between the lines, this dog has shown some aggression already, probably to another male dog. I'm also guessing he's at least snarled at a male shelter worker. Why adopt him out? Clearly his behavior indicates a time bomb. I like dogs enough to advocate putting a dog like him down. I believe that's the humane and responsible thing to do.
ReplyDeletePeople do bond over common interests but there have to be some like me. People who like dogs, but don't believe in letting them be a nuisance. People who see dogs like Goose and understand why he was shot. People who would rather see Mickey put down than the ridiculous life he has now. I don't know what happened to common sense, but it seems to have disappeared in the last 20 years or so.
Family dogs should be suitable for any human of either sex or age to be around. We are not placing children in foster homes here where accommodations are made for specific needs. Dogs that are dog aggressive should be excluded from being adopted. No dog should ever be advertised as being good around cats especially a bully breed. No house cat stands a chance in hell when one of those things decides to play shake the bait with it.
ReplyDeleteAs to the Mauler. I have yet to hear any real evidence his was mistreated or unloved and neglected. It got chained up for killing another dog. Right down to the child snatching the bone the whole story was manipulated to make the dog the victim. Shelter workers are well aware animal rights groups are watching to make sure pits are not sent straight to the dumpster.
Goose was shot because a neighbor had enough of the dog. There is no reason to think he is a dog hater or that he shot the dog for any reason than the ones stated. Goose would be alive today if the owners had built their own fence or snapped a leash on the dog and walked it themselves. Well aware it wasn't contained they opened their door and let the beast run. Boo hoo hoo. Real life consequences.
Mickey would not be serving such a stupid sentence, for lack of a better way to describe it, if he had been dealt with properly when he killed the other dog. As for Goose, I agree. I understand sometimes accidents happen, a dog can get loose and the owner be a responsible person. If it keeps happening, clearly the owner doesn't care about the people it bothers and really doesn't care about the dog either. At least not until it's stopped and they can try and play on sympathy.
ReplyDeleteTrisha the problem is just loose dogs. It's the dogs that are running loose. It now seems common to own a dog who's first act of freedom is to munch something living. Dogs like this are not house pets and human companions. They are predators with zero fear of humans. A dog that is in even the most secure yard that shows signs of hyper aggression should be treated the same as if they are loose to do the deed. Pets are not entitled to due process. AC laws need to be more proactive than reactive. When the signs are clear the animal needs to be removed and disposed of.
ReplyDeleteI just read the blog Dog bite Decatur AL. It is beyond ridiculous that anyone has to live that way. AC will only act after the tragedy has occurred. If you're in a state where dogs get the so called one free bite you may find yourself, child, spouse dead or disfigured with little consequence to the owner of the killing machine.
It sounds like an illegal kennel to me. It pays to know every nuance of your local AC laws. They mentioned SS. Some senior centers have legal help or low cost resources.
It's not always loose dogs. Some maul while on a leash, some lie in wait for an innocent to come into the yard. A normal dog getting out once or twice, is a potential problem. More than twice and a pattern is being established. Letting them run is so inconsiderate regardless of size or how dangerous they are. My sister again is a great example. She has a rat terrier, it's friendly, small and probably wouldn't ever bite anyone. What makes the dog a problem is her just letting it out to run and do it's business wherever it pleases. I wouldn't put up with it, if she were my neighbor, first I'd warn her, then I would place any deposits in front of her door. If she still didn't get the message the dog would be gone. Even if I had my own dog, it wouldn't give someone else or their dog the 'right " to come into my yard and mess it up.
ReplyDeleteI think I've got it! Google image search the following: Brindle bull lurcher.
ReplyDeleteWhoa! GOOD OBSERVATION.
DeleteThe lurcher has as many varied uses as types can be crossbred, but generally they are used as hunting dogs that can chase and kill their prey
Chase and kill their prey.... like the kids next door!
In other words Brindle lurcher/ pit bull mix. Gross.
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