Anyone care to guess the breed???
[UPDATE]
I called AC and reported the issue. As predicted, the concern was only for the dog. They are going to send an officer out today to talk to the owner about his lousy pet care. All he will get at this point is a warning. They weren't interested in seeing the photos or taking a full statement at this time.
At least the ball is rolling. Its the first step on the paper trail.
On Tuesday (yesterday) the dog was only our for an hour or so (same conditions). I can't see over there too well since a fence divides the properties.
Hopefully, I will still be alive to pursue this: The character next door is very interesting. He seems pretty mild *most* of the time, but will dial the aggression from a 1 to a 10 VERY quickly.
Does the fun EVER stop?
Who cares. Skip the polite inquiries , record, video and call AC now. My below normal intelligence neighbors now seem to have a third freaking dog. The other two were taking it for a crap in my front yard this morning. I called AC. Next is the county commissioner.
ReplyDeleteMy below normal intelligence neighbors now seem to have a third freaking dog.
ReplyDeleteWhat is it with these people? DDS - Doggie Derangement Syndrome?
Interestingly, the folks next door are not really "dog people". They had a mini-daschund for a few years but that was gone years ago and they have been dogless since then. The neighborhood dog-foamers were the folks across the street (since moved out YEAH!).
This may be a transient thing. I think I've seen the dog twice in the past 2 weeks. He may just be dog-sitting for a friend. The dog has been outside with no food, water or shelter for at least 3 hours. This is Florida in June and predictably, its 95F outside. They are lousy dog sitters, to say the least.
Perhaps they are worth approaching about it if they are fairly sane. I live in the desert someone would have called the super duper caped crusader animal welfare officer and a few news crews.
ReplyDeleteI haven't a clue about my neighbors. I have a lot of descriptions of them , none of them nice or politically correct. They give white trash a run for their money. The dogs are always loose. I have my camera up. But since they've been quite at night, I mean not a peep lately, Well I've tried to pick my battles. I think the Border Collie empties it's bowels when it seems me. And now a third dog. The white rat was at the end of the road today trying to dig into a metal culvert. I know for a fact there is at least one good sized rattler down there. Bon appetite !
No, they are not worth approaching. They have criminal records, have displayed criminal activity, and are frequently drunk and/or stoned. The abused their last dog. Given that they only once in the past invaded my space and caused a problem for me, I give them a pass. I called the cops on them once and since then we have (well, had) a tacit agreement: They let me live in peace and I ignore them.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I'm not sure what caused them to go off the dog nutter deep end. The dog has been tied up outside nearly all day, barking on and off. They did put a water bowl out about 6pm. Due to the background I have with them and the other dog-nutter neighbors (that they are fully aware of) I am not sure why they chose to do this. Have the drugs and booze completely fried their brains? Are they totally brainwashed after a marathon of Pit Bulls and Parolees? There is absolutely no advantage to them doing what they are doing. Do they really think I am going to let them get away with this? While not readers of this blog, they know exactly who they are dealing with - the guy that ran off the other dog fanatics. They know that I have a ton of dirt on them, and would certainly beat them in any sort of conflict.... yet they pursue this behavior anyway?
All I can say is that dog nuttery knows no bounds. They are going to foist their dogs on everybody with a near certainty that doing so is going to cost them everything they own and land them in jail (and yes, these folks would wind up in jail).
DOG KAMIKAZE!
DeleteThere is absolutely no advantage to them doing what they are doing. Do they really think I am going to let them get away with this? While not readers of this blog, they know exactly who they are dealing with - the guy that ran off the other dog fanatics. They know that I have a ton of dirt on them, and would certainly beat them in any sort of conflict.... yet they pursue this behavior anyway?-
DeleteBingo, I know they've gotten in trouble with every branch of our local government. Which out here is a feat worthy of admiration. And yet they put out a beacon for me to call in AC yet again.
I had 3 mutts abounding on my front steps this morning at 7am. I couldn't have been more dumbfounded if I looked out and seen the Easter Bunny and Santa doing the tango.
I have looked and can't find anything of interest for them here. They are just dogs out being the intrusive species they are when un-chaperoned.
Honest we just want to co-exist and yet at the same time they seem almost driven to push the limits.
I will call AC first thing tomorrow (they are closed now). They don't care about the barking, but they DO care about the dog left out all day in the FL heat and subsequent thunderstorm with no food/water/shelter. I have photos and videos.
DeleteRE: Your neighbors (and mine). They keep doing it because, so far, there is not much of a penalty for doing so. What has it cost them so far? The problem only cures when the consequences are very painful.
DeleteMy other nutter neighbors moved out because they could not fight all of the complaints lodged against them. I guess they moved on to a set of more compliant victims.
I commend them for keeping the beasts quiet at night. I try to look the other way when I see them trotting down the road. Mostly they've stayed out of our yard. I'm not interested in a constant throw down or pissing contest. The constant animosity and what can only be called provoking by the constant dog issues never lets things just settle where there might be a slight chance of a mature dialog.
DeleteHow can you call yourself a dog lover and let your pet run where you know they've been oc sprayed on more than one occasion.
"I'm not sure what caused them to go off the dog nutter deep end."
Deleteyes you do.
"They have criminal records, have displayed criminal activity, and are frequently drunk and/or stoned. The abused their last dog."
Indeed, someone drawn to the pitbull lifestyle.
DeleteA.U., they are just not smart. They do not consider consequences.
ReplyDeleteIndeed they don't. And that's why they get caught up in the criminal justice system.
DeleteI haven't heard the pit puppy next door in a few weeks. Perhaps their plus sized monster mauler ate it. I do still hear JR, but only if someone walks by while he's outside, or he's actually loose inside his house and can see out the windows. Either way, he doesn't bark, he snarls like nothing I've ever heard. My son isn't playing outside in our neighborhood, we take walks for exercise, hang out at the library and park. When there are no pit bulls the park is a haven, most other dogs are quiet and kept off the playground.
ReplyDeleteThe one good thing about animal control is they will do something about the lack of care. The shame is, even if they're fined, they might not care. Good luck.
We had an extremely violent thunderstorm last night. The dog was left out in it - I could hear it barking in between thunderclaps. I checked about 9pm and the owner was not home.
ReplyDeleteI am going to call AC first thing this AM. This may or may not be a permanent arrangement - if it is, its best to get a paper trail started.
Tolerance gets you nowhere in these cases.
DeleteAnd make sure that you get the case number. This shows 'em that you really mean business.
DeleteAnd the names of anyone you speak with.
DeleteTypical. Yes they will get the talk about being good pet parents and you will get the stink eye.
ReplyDeleteWe discussed how to handle any retribution or revenge over calling AC on out neighbors. The golden rule is the second one of them try and confront 911 is dialed. Our security camera can catch any unhinged activity they may decide to engage in when we aren't watching or gone. One of the reasons we tolerated so much was knowing that our neighbor is aggressive and likely suffering from some form of mental deficiency. Although I'm certain in this culture we're considered the troublemakers you have to decide how much you're going to let some gorilla intimidate you.
This guy is an interesting case. Unlike the other dog foamer neighbors, he seems very meek most of the time. My theory is that he is bi-polar, perhaps even schizo, and occasionally goes off his meds. My other theory is he is a recovering drug addict (cocaine or PCP) who occasionally falls off the wagon. There is definitely a jeckyll and hyde scenario in place.
DeleteThe other neighbor was essentially belligerent all the time: Pure, hard core dog bully "my dogs and I own this block, so you better get used to it!!!"
That said, there is some probability this guy may do the right thing - If he is on the right drugs, or off the wrong ones, he may comprehend that he is in error and modify his behavior. The next week or so should be very interesting. In the interim, I am NEVER without my "pocket rocket" either on my person or within easy reach. The 12 gauge is out and loaded if I need more firepower. I truly hope it does not come to that.
Each time I see advice saying to just go talk to your dog owning neighbors I cringe. Aside from a few short term spells of silence it has never worked. The level of animosity built up by not having AC and law enforcement willing to intercede before it became a war of neighbors cannot be undone even when the dogs are silence and it now appears re-confined.
DeleteMy neighbor is just rabid all the time. Sadly I can see how her animosity has a direct effect on my own behavior. When I walk out to the trash bins I carry a scythe, bat, pipe or my OC depending on the wind.
All of this crap is the direct result of one person refusing to keep their dogs quiet at night. Something she was able to accomplish in a day when confronted by real authority.
http://www.expertsecuritytips.com/how-to-train-pit-bulls-to-become-guard-dogs/
DeleteThis gave me the heeby jeebies.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/246928612/The-Tragic-Fantasy-That-A-Protection-Dog-Can-Make-A-Reliable-Family-Pet#scribd
DeleteKD, when I worked in the field it became clear that a dog tied to the front porch was a way to off put any contact. Pit on a chain was common. You see a door crack open and the occupants often came outside but stayed within the radius of the dogs chain. I cannot recall how many would brag they had taught their dog a code word so that it would attack on cue. Some even demonstrated. The most popular code word was the N word. Figuring the dogs are now chained out and I doubt most of these breeds need a go ahead to rip into someone another unproven but interesting observation is the dog that is out in a pattern that doesn't match something for the dog but rather the likely illegal activities being carried out in the home.
ReplyDeleteKD the link you provide drives home the danger of thinking you can have a dog for protection and at the same time a safe family pet. Animals do not make judgement calls. It would be very easy to cross the wires .You can also notice the plethora of dog attacks where they owners and supporters claim the dog was just protecting it's home.
The dog in the picture is tied up on a short lead where frustration is only going to fuel it's negative behavior
AU mentions criminal activity.
Yesterday around 2pm it was 98 degrees with heat index about 105. I walked up to my 6 foot wood board fence and looked through a narrow crack to see if the pit bulls were in the sun. Yes, there was sun coming down on them - the 3 of them - #5 the white breeding bitch, and #6 a very large dark brown brindle pit, #7 a large female dark brown brindle, and suddenly a large dark brown brindle dog rushed the fence at me growling and barking --- pit bull #8. I did a double take and looked back at the kennel on the other side of the yard to make sure there were 3 pits there and my eyes weren't playing tricks on me. They were not. This pit ran around the back yard barking til dark while the other 3 were penned up in the very small compartments. So in the beginning they had 4 pits and one hung itself climbing out of the kennel. After we went to court the judge ordered "the dogs" removed from the property. They kept one and now they have added 3 more making the total 4 that we have seen. But where has this dog #8 been kept? More than likely it is a female and it has been inside the garage or the utility shed having baby pits. No telling how many dogs they have over there. I felt like crumbling into the ground with all my energy sapped from me.
ReplyDeleteDecatur - what is going on next to you is absolutely ridiculous. No way should something like that be allowed in a residential neighborhood.
DeleteI hate to say it but your situation is starting to sound like that indicated in "Monsters among us". As backyard rottweiler breeder caused the mauling of a neighbor. This guy had over 30 rottweilers! And, this is probably in a neighborhood where chickens are banned.
Any thought given to notifying this guy's lienholder and insurance carrier? Getting them evicted would solve the problem.
Yeesh... what a mess. The worst thing is, you wouldn't even be able to move until those idiots are gone.
It shouldn't be allowed in rural areas either. I'm sick of the human fallout slithering out of more populated areas and setting up shop out here. They don't want to live and enjoy the desert. They're looking for someplace to get by with their shit.
DeleteYou don't want this kind of crap going on next door even if next door is a half mile away.
As you have pointed out. If someone were to keep livestock in a residential neighborhood and created that kind of mess about 10 different agencies would be down their throat over the mess. If someone complains about loose cats AC will set traps. Complain about dogs barking, running loose or the foul conditions that make your own yard unusable and you're ignored. If you think a loose pit is bad in town. Think about being outside in a field with your house hundreds of feet away and seeing the new dimwit pit owners walking their meat grinder down the road on a 10 foot rope while it's lunging and snarling at everything and they yell at you to get inside. Now extend that to AC saying there is nothing they can do because the dog was on a leash. Lucky for everyone out here it got loose and someone gave it a nice dirt nap. Sorry to rant. This kind of trash isn't welcome out here either.
Sorry to rant
DeleteNo problem!
This kind of trash isn't welcome out here either.
I don't blame you. One of the points I try to make is, the closer the proximity in which we live, the more we need to restrict our behaviors. What might be OK on a large property with distant neighbors would not be on a smaller one with closer neighbors. Now, you could say that a Pit Bull is unacceptable on ANY property - that is a worthwhile point to make.
Google "Ballast Key". Now THERE would a good place to keep PitBulls!
Decatur, This is how I feel about my neighbors although since their pit also hung itself they have not repeated that particular breed experiment. Even if someone is restricted from owning any pet there is little manpower to enforce it.
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