So, here and here I made the case that censorship is the ultimate FAIL. Is there ANOTHER case to be made?
Here is the rhetorical question for the day: Why did I start this blog in the first place, considering that I had been content to write and comment on other sites for the past, oh, 20 years or so?
In any case, THIS post was censored from a supposedly ANTI-BARKING site about 4 years ago.
Anybody have a problem with this content? Feel free to let me know:
Hello [site host],
is unfortunate, I think this was generally a good "venue".
to "anti-dog"... how do you define "anti-dog" and why does one need to be
"pro-dog"? I think that "anti-dog" is an oversimplification.
Would you consider any of the following "anti-dog", and if so,
- Using lethal force against a dog that is attacking a human
being. Note this is legally protected almost everywhere.
that any dog that has attacked a human being or killed another animal be
summarily put down or incarcerated indefinitely, as opposed to being turned
loose in the community.
- A preference for dog-free communities, public
parks, etc... Again, this is not a dog ban, merely a recognition that
dogs are not appropriate in all venues.
- Preferring to not own a
dog: preferring another pet over a dog, i.e. a cat, rabbit, horse,
- Recognizing that there is such a thing as a "bad" dog.
Consider Alexandra Semyonova, et. al.
- Recognizing that there is a down
side to owning a dog, just as there is to Anything. Dogs are not
perfect, and owning a dog is not for everyone.
- Belief that a dog is
inferior to a human.
- Belief that a dog is equal to other animals.
Self help options are legitimate where and when the legal system has
[Here] I'll give you MY answers to my own questions and
leave that open for discussion:
- Using lethal force against a dog that
is attacking, or otherwise threatening the safety of, another human being is
legitimate. I will not surrender to a vicious animal nor will I stand by
and allow another human or animal to be mauled by a dog or any other
animal. This is a protected legal right in nearly every
jurisdiction. Again, I am contemplating SELF DEFENSE not
initiating force for no reason.
- I insist that any dog that has
seriously injured or killed a human being, or has killed another animal, be
summarily euthanized. I will not tolerate vicious animals being turned
loose in my community.
- I prefer that some locales and public places
be zoned "dog free". 61% of households in the United States do NOT have
a dog and this large majority should be accommodated.
- I prefer cats
over dogs. Cats are lower impact and fundamentally superior in
- There is such a thing as a "bad" dog. The worlds
leading animal experts say so, and its clear that while to dog's behavior is
the owners *responsibility*, the dog is acting with volition (i.e. choosing to
bark over being quiet, meeting its needs with violence, etc...).
Furthermore, some dogs have been bred to be disruptive and vicious, and those
breeds should be treated with extreme prejudice.
- There are many
down-sides to owning a dog. There are downsides to EVERYTHING including
driving a car or owning a home. Personally, I put dog owners in the same
category as smokers. They have a right to pursue their lifestyle choice
to the extent that it does not adversely affect anyone else. I'm sure
they all love their dogs, but smokers love their cigarettes even more (I know,
I'm an ex smoker!). Hell, smoking improves concentration, brings on a
sense of well-being, etc... if it were all bad no one would do it.
Dogs are inferior to humans. There is no equity between humans and
dogs: When the rights of a human and the interests of a dog intersect,
the dog loses. Discrimination against dogs is legitimate.
are equal to other animals.
- Self help options are legitimate
where and when due process has been summarily denied. This may
include using force against the dog.
I am not "anti-dog" I am dog
tolerant. I'm willing to tolerate any dog that does not cause anyone a
problem. I want commonsense limits put on dog behavior. "Dogs
bark, its what they do" does not fly with me. I think that the downside
of owning a dog and harboring dogs in human communities needs to be presented
as well as the upside, and the upside is ALREADY very well presented.
The hegemony of the dog-owning entitlement overclass needs to be
broken. Owning a dog does not entitle one to any special
treatment. Dog victims deserve due process. I think that a
large minority (say 20%-30%) of people who own dogs would be better off not
doing so. I think that dog owners should be taxed heavily as they
externalize the costs of their high impact pets. I will not subjugate my
needs to those of a dog. Human cities are for human consumption, and
bringing ANY animal into that city is a privilege.
Anyone who finds
fault in my logic or feels that my position is somehow driven by irrational
hatred, please show me my error.
Anyone who considers me a "hater"
should take heed that I have had numerous opportunities to eliminate the
source of my torment and have not done so. And, I mean quickly and
efficiently. How? In my jurisdiction, I have a legal right to
shoot dead any canine trespasser. For anyone who did not fully absorb
that last sentence, I will say that again: I have a legal right to
summarily kill any canine trespasser by any legal means at my disposal. [EDIT: That may not be 100% accurate, as the dog may have to be behaving dangerously or destructively at the time. There are the 3 S's, also]
The numbskulls across the street, to this day, continue to REGULARLY turn
their dog loose on my property to pee, poop, and destroy my property after
dozens of demands for them to restrain their dog as required by law. I
have regular opportunities to kill that dog, legally, and get away with
it. If I were to do so, they can't sue me and I cannot be charged.
I have not taken this option as I desire no harm to come to the
animal. Hater? Don't think so. Hell, I'm avoiding doing
something that I HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO DO. Anyone who considers
me, or anyone like me, a hater can STUFF IT.
I would take over the
venue, but I would rename it to "Dog Problems" as focusing on chronic barkers
is too narrow. I have sympathy for the 5 Million Americans bit by dogs
every year, with the hundreds of thousands hospitalized. I am concerned
about the high level of water and soil pollution resulting from dogs
defecating and urinating everywhere. I am concerned about dog
overpopulation. I am concerned about dog attacks on other animals.
I am concerned about the bad treatment of