tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post7023676632012929091..comments2024-03-27T18:22:28.226-07:00Comments on Animal Uncontrol: Free Rider ProblemAnimal Uncontrolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-11354795114500553942013-12-26T18:24:33.022-08:002013-12-26T18:24:33.022-08:00I don't know how to handle all these issues. I...I don't know how to handle all these issues. Ive never really learned. But what I freaking hate with a passion is people without disability who are apparently so void of a social life and so dependent upon their animals especially dogs to fill a void for them that they bring their slobbering barking problems everywhere with them. Then they park their car in the grocery parking lot and roll down the window and some giant dog is sticking its ugly head out the window barking at everyone in sight. <br />Bullshit I have a right to get out of my car without having to hear the undying bark of an idiot dog who had no need to be on that particular trip. Dogs can and are capable of sitting at home alone for an hour. It isnt that the dog needs to be there. Its that this person is extremely dependent on another being for company. Turn on your radio and leave the nuisance at home.Rhea Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11620838589143701693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-63897129696217090572013-07-19T04:00:13.655-07:002013-07-19T04:00:13.655-07:00Thanks for sharing the idea there would be some ap...Thanks for sharing the idea there would be some apprehensions from segment but i am up for it.Pet Sitters Near Lake Las Vegas Nvhttp://www.apawsativelypurrrfectpetsittingservice.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-71655152757488235832012-10-10T12:14:50.109-07:002012-10-10T12:14:50.109-07:00I'm noticing more instances of people finding ...I'm noticing more instances of people finding their own solutions to the barking dog noise problem. Matter of fact, I just blogged an incident from northern Arizona:<br /><br />http://quietbarkingdogs.blogspot.com/2012/10/cause-and-effect.htmlYour Quiet Neighborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15865179687268241220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-49697037029192979392012-10-03T10:45:49.842-07:002012-10-03T10:45:49.842-07:00Blogs that analyze, provide information, help orga...Blogs that analyze, provide information, help organize thoughts and think up strategies are useful to everyone who reads them. <br /><br />I suppose gripe blogs are too, for whiners who like the cathartic experience of griping together. It's just that it so quickly gets boring to the rest of us. All the same, I wish them much fun together...<br /><br />...and that they gripe about us on their own blogs, not on the ones we visit for more constructive purposes. <br /><br />This despite how amusing her (his?) silly rants were. Even that gets boring after one or two times. <br /><br />Sweetie Piehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048713290619160232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-18762454804708288572012-10-01T05:09:57.565-07:002012-10-01T05:09:57.565-07:00Boy, do I feel with you Anonymous. This is basical...Boy, do I feel with you Anonymous. This is basically what those whiners are doing when they want to tell me another pit bull attack story: 'If I tell it to her, she'll do something about it -- and she'll take all the shit that flies when it hits the fan."<br /><br />This cowardice ON TOP OF the general laziness that typifies the whiner. Sweetie Piehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048713290619160232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-35738683018962018202012-09-29T11:12:35.192-07:002012-09-29T11:12:35.192-07:00Thanks for the comments, all!
A couple of thought...Thanks for the comments, all!<br /><br />A couple of thoughts on the issue:<br /><br />1) There is a BIG difference between pointless griping and an activists call to action. The fact that some people try to muddy the water or distort that for their own aggrandizement does not change that.<br /><br />2) There is also a big difference between pointless griping and analysis. The main reason I started this blog was to at least try to bring some clarity to these issues. It became apparent to me that, unlike many other social issues, these AC problems have NOT been thought through. <br /><br />I don't bother "reporting", since most of these anecdotes, such as the Lenton situation, are all over the media. Instead, I try to examine the incident, analyze it at a deeper level, perhaps look for an angle no one has considered yet, and then proceed to use the situation to promote a call for change.<br /><br />An allegory would be a leak in a dam. Its one thing to say "The dam is leaking, and that just sux!". Yes, that is true BUT what is really important is, the indicated situation presents a real problem that needs to be solved. Its also important to consider: How did the dam start leaking? Are there any other problems with the structure to consider? How much worse is it going to get? How are we going to fix it? How do we prevent problems with this structure in the future? Etc... etc... etc...<br /><br />Often, I'll write just to clarify the issue in my OWN head! Its one thing to say "A rottweiler killed somebody in Alabama. Power dogs suck!". <br /><br />To me, what is interesting is:<br /><br />- Why were there no restrictions place on this guy before the fact... How was he allowed to own that many animals in a suburban setting? He likely would not be able to own goats or sheep. <br /><br />- Why is this guy walking around free after promoting lethal aggression against an innocent person? Why hasn't SOME sort of criminal charge been brought?<br />- What can we do to get this dangerous individual off the street? (Restraint after the fact)<br /><br />- How do we restrain people like that going forward?<br /><br />- Etc...<br /><br />To me, THAT is what is interesting and that is primarily what I write about.<br /><br />In regards to true activism, obviously not everyone has it in them to be a real activist. OK, you have 2 jobs and 5 kids and you are overwhelmed... fine, I respect that. However, it then becomes a situation of what you do NOT do... DON'T interfere with those who are actively working to solve the problem. A call for real action may be ignored but should NOT be treated derisively! If you want to sit there and badmouth everyone who is working to serve your sorry ass you deserve nothing but contempt from everybody!Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-23655345537734400812012-09-29T09:59:28.169-07:002012-09-29T09:59:28.169-07:00"Before they can start their narrative, I ask..."Before they can start their narrative, I ask whether they've reported it to the police and written to the Mayor and City Council. No? Well, then I don't want to hear your story -- and I walk away."<br /><br />I had a neighbor that called and asked *me* to complain to law enforcement about her neighbor's barking dog. She didnt want to get involved and have trouble with her neighbor. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-81330765895301410532012-09-29T00:37:05.646-07:002012-09-29T00:37:05.646-07:00AU: "Know what, if you won’t assert your righ...AU: "Know what, if you won’t assert your rights, YOU do not deserve them!"<br /><br />Correct. But also: when people won't assert a right, it means they don't much care about that right, not really, no matter how much they whine. If they don't make an effort to solve a problem, it means it doesn't bother them all that much, not really, no matter how much they complain. Someone once said, 'if you want to know what a person really wants in life, look at what they do, not at what they say.' <br /><br />Some people like complaining. It gives them something to do all day. They don't like it when the excuse to complain is taken away. They quickly find some other excuse (such as you, the person who ruined their day by solving the thing they complained about). That is to say: The seeming subject of their complaint isn't really the subject; the real subject is the chance to whine. <br /><br />Re the free ride, what can we do? I'm in those shoes too, trying to solve a problem because it's a problem for me and mine. We're all unable to escape improving the lives of the professional whiners as we improve our own and protect those we care about. <br /><br />With a sigh, I've decided it's not worth cutting off my own nose to spite the whiners' complaining faces. What I do instead is refuse to listen to the whining. Someone comes to me wanting to tell a story about yet another pit bull attack. Before they can start their narrative, I ask whether they've reported it to the police and written to the Mayor and City Council. No? Well, then I don't want to hear your story -- and I walk away. <br /><br />I'm consistently amused by their surprised faces. 'But, but, but...this was my chance to complain, why are you walking away, doesn't everyone love empty complaining?' <br /><br />My amusement at their amazed faces is my antidote to the anger I used to feel when they deposited their story with me, then went on their way satisfied by the cathartic and exhilarating complaint session, leaving the sadness about yet another dead dog or child with me. The not listening protects me from taking on this burden of sadness. It also confronts the whiner with the fact that their whining isn't really interesting, they should find some other profession. So I find this tactic useful on several fronts, most of all the increased quality of life it gives me. <br /><br />Thanks for all your tellings, also for listening. Sweetie Piehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048713290619160232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-36639514679679356692012-09-28T14:53:29.252-07:002012-09-28T14:53:29.252-07:00I've had the same troubles in two different ne...I've had the same troubles in two different neighborhoods, incessant barking dogs, no one else seems to care enough to do anything about it. I don't care if I make a few enemies, my sleep is more important. <br /><br />Wish I could go to the walk. Daynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15834190591485554241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-62243090021635868742012-09-28T06:54:01.277-07:002012-09-28T06:54:01.277-07:00YQN: Actually, wearing a anti-barking T-shirt is ...YQN: Actually, wearing a anti-barking T-shirt is rather bold. Good for you!<br /><br />I hope the turn out for the walk in your city is good... See, now THAT is what I am talking about! THAT is the sort of activism that gets noted. Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-34958346856036607962012-09-28T04:46:52.612-07:002012-09-28T04:46:52.612-07:00In my neighborhood, I've had to fight the bark...In my neighborhood, I've had to fight the barking battles myself for many years. And yes, I've heard other neighbors complain about the dog problems around here.<br /><br />Sure, I wish I had more support on this issue, but that's life. Sometimes you have to start the fight on your own.<br /><br />As for me, my next step will be to start wearing my anti-barking tee shirts in public. Yeah, I know. Wearing a shirt. Not exactly putting one's life on the line. But it's a quiet way of getting a much-needed message out to a broader audience.<br /><br />I also plan to be at next month's Walk for Victims of Pit Bulls and Other Dangerous Dogs. Hope to see others there as well.Your Quiet Neighborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15865179687268241220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-61291598493840764072012-09-27T21:11:52.828-07:002012-09-27T21:11:52.828-07:00you have my condolences. i've been in your pos...you have my condolences. i've been in your position.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-88382323721012205252012-09-27T21:00:36.997-07:002012-09-27T21:00:36.997-07:00We anti-barking activists in Australia have always...We anti-barking activists in Australia have always found that when you turn to your neighbours for confirmatory support of barking allegations, all you see is dust as every local coward heads for the hills. <br /><br />Trust nobody. Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11520395725678272635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-72542323625050240572012-09-27T20:57:18.465-07:002012-09-27T20:57:18.465-07:00I believe that attempts to introduce time slots fo...I believe that attempts to introduce time slots for barking in Australia failed. <br /><br />So they should.<br /><br />Allowable time slots for barking is similar to the law permitting a certain number of assailants' punches to hit you.<br /><br />NONE is the only acceptable number.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11520395725678272635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-36971319331731400122012-09-27T20:09:02.404-07:002012-09-27T20:09:02.404-07:00"So, now you do NOT need a neighbor to co-sig..."So, now you do NOT need a neighbor to co-sign the complaint and the dog can only bark for 10 minutes."<br /><br />Good work. <br /><br />10 minutes is a decent time frame for anyone to get it together and attend the dog. Gives people time to get off the toilet, make sure the baby is safe, children arent sticking their fingers in electrical outlets and the dinner isnt on fire. It may even happen a few times a day and that's quite normal... Much like being on the toilet.<br /><br />The 10 minute rule will probably be abused by the disturbed neighbors on both sides of the fence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com