tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post7875688179507794198..comments2024-03-27T18:22:28.226-07:00Comments on Animal Uncontrol: Nanny Dogs, Part DeuxAnimal Uncontrolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-86649119858763837952015-04-17T00:09:32.574-07:002015-04-17T00:09:32.574-07:00They looked like they were just petting it. I mean...They looked like they were just petting it. I meant to say supervised not surprised. I don't know the purpose of the guinea pig, but they weren't reading to it. That would have been hilarious. I don't have children, so IDK. I learned to read via instruction from an adult human.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-22442823179806291872015-04-14T14:08:50.892-07:002015-04-14T14:08:50.892-07:00I know you can teach them to be people aggressive....I know you can teach them to be people aggressive. Add the dog's 109+lbs. size. It's a disaster waiting to happen. Still I blame the owners. Having a pit is bad enough, an XL pit is worse. Making it mean to people is the worst of all. I wish it would eat one of them already. Better it's owners than ANY of us.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11248381049542338892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-67109723920893399232015-04-14T10:13:40.755-07:002015-04-14T10:13:40.755-07:00Trisha. Yes you can train a pit to be more openly ...Trisha. Yes you can train a pit to be more openly aggressive . What you can't un teach even the most gently raised pit is their natural inclination to be animal aggressive ( kill kill kill ) or the state of mind that some call arousal where they are totally incapable of shutting down an attack once it's started. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-52440223369029874432015-04-12T22:54:50.038-07:002015-04-12T22:54:50.038-07:00I used to believe the same, I do know that a reall...I used to believe the same, I do know that a really bad owner can make the genetic traits of maulers more prominent. JR has been raised to be mean to everyone and everything. They think it's good to make him that way. At least the average stupid person doesn't mistreat their pit and try to make it mean, on top of it already being dangerous.<br /><br />Your quiet neighbor, my son also enjoys reading to our rats, and his gerbil. The dog actually sits still though, the rodents think it's always play time. He'll read to anybody, if you're willing to listen, but he enjoys the dog. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11248381049542338892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-11666818903677823802015-04-12T21:45:11.519-07:002015-04-12T21:45:11.519-07:00While I didn't refute that a mauler or killer ...While I didn't refute that a mauler or killer dog should be put down, back when I didn't understand the excessive risk posed by pit bulls, I was quick to believe the claim that an aggressive dog must have been raised badly or was otherwise provoked. I knew certain breeds are more prone to aggression due to their purposes, but figured it was more on the owner to be able to curb and discourage that behavior (not erase it, since you can't erase genetics). Some years later I started learning the truth about pit bulls, and realized continuing to believe "it's all in how you raise them" went against everything I knew about dogs. I also learned a lot the seedy underbelly of the pit and pet industries. Looking at all this now, you have to wonder...pit lovers do all sorts of things around these dogs on a daily basis. Run, yell, wrestle, bike, and yet somehow these behaviors don't "provoke" the pit into launching an attack?<br /><br />If you listen to "it's all in how you raise them" you don't have a reason to look into the details of pit bull attacks or why the pet industry focuses on this breed, because you assume the dog was raised badly. Owners who really are decent people and want to speak out about watching their well-loved, well-raised pit suddenly attack are shamed into silence, because it's assumed they must have done something wrong that a proper pit bull owner simply <i>wouldn't.</i> (the real mistake is getting a pit in the first place, but they're marketed as misunderstood cuddle bunnies.)<br /><br />I think "it's all in how you raise them" is deadliest and most insidious myth of the pit bull world.Cardinalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-38794291323247507442015-04-12T19:46:56.985-07:002015-04-12T19:46:56.985-07:00What in the hell is it with these read-to-an-anima...What in the hell is it with these read-to-an-animal things? You might as well go outside and read to a tree. Or a rock. Good grief, if you need to improve your read-aloud skills, you just freakin' do it! You can even do it at home in your closet.Your Quiet Neighborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15865179687268241220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-51145690933830509682015-04-11T21:18:40.581-07:002015-04-11T21:18:40.581-07:00I don't stick around when pit bulls are about....I don't stick around when pit bulls are about. The only exception is our park, but I've always got my knife at the park. We have a back to the 50's festival in town every year. For a long time people brought their pets. Why you bring iguanas, snakes, and all kinds of dogs to a crowded, noisy event is way beyond me. More and more people started bringing pits, so all pets were banned. I'm hoping they'll ban pets from the Fourth of July activities this year. Most dogs don't like loud noise so why do idiots bring them to the fireworks and parade? And why in the world bring them to the carnival? It's not like Fido can ride the ferris wheel. Trust me Eileen, the golden, and almost any lab breeds, I'm fine with. A pit inside the library would be enough to make me leave. Luckily, the grifters with ESA dogs don't read, so they're not dragging them in there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11248381049542338892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-5459641306863539042015-04-11T16:31:33.685-07:002015-04-11T16:31:33.685-07:00"and dog people say that they 'need to ge..."and dog people say that they 'need to get over it'."<br /><br />That is what they always said. Probably in a dog owners manual from the 1950's.Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-63354845870504522562015-04-11T16:12:28.195-07:002015-04-11T16:12:28.195-07:00Pet parents should keep better tabs on their kids....Pet parents should keep better tabs on their kids. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-49917090392709983672015-04-11T15:27:22.215-07:002015-04-11T15:27:22.215-07:00"The social dialogue around pit bull attacks ..."The social dialogue around pit bull attacks is similar to the dialogue used with rape victims."<br /><br />Indeed, blaming victims of DOG attacks is a national pastime. Check out my Proto Nuttery essay - problem not limited to Pit Bulls.Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-76041683818726002142015-04-11T15:25:42.257-07:002015-04-11T15:25:42.257-07:00"I found out that in some of our National For..."I found out that in some of our National Forest here dogs are allowed off leash."<br /><br />I have an excellent post on an off leash dog at a national forest. Early 2014.<br /><br />Long story short, some genius let his dog run off a cliff in NC. Splat!Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-63671786238601433062015-04-11T13:10:20.622-07:002015-04-11T13:10:20.622-07:00http://whatapittie.org/
A benign breed in a volunt...http://whatapittie.org/<br />A benign breed in a voluntary setting is up to the parent. I did find several references to these kinds of programs going into schools and many of them include pit bull propaganda and rescue dog drivel. At that point the focus has moved from encouraging a child to indoctrination. The link at the top should take you to such a group. Animal Uncontrol is dead on about the mutation of programs that allow dogs. <br />I hope if Trisha ever walks in on the library program and sees a pit or mix she has the good sense to leave. <br />I watched my favorite little pit bull pimp last night. The pit in the show was dog aggressive and attacking any dog it could. Of course the mommy-fail went on and on about how loving the dog was with her children. After yet another dog attack which was seen as not that bad since the other dog was recovering well they gave the dog to the glorified dog walker who has plans to rehabilitate it and find a home where the dogs needs are better understood. <br />The second was a terrier breed that in one of its uncontrolled moments ran up and bit a 2 year old. I have no idea why there was a rest of the story. The dog should have been put down after that. <br />Aside from his skewed ideas on dog training. I love where he encouraged the pit owners to walk their dog and pretty much see how it goes. My question has always been how does he pick the dogs. One of the horse guru's making the rounds years ago like a rock star got outed for picking and choosing horses for his demo training seminars even though he claimed he could do his magic with any horse. <br />TV shows like this tend to focus on the positive outcomes rather than the dismal failures. <br />http://4pawsu.com/cesarfans.htm<br />this link takes you to a dog training page. Showdown with Holly vs ceasr milian shows he is totally incapable of reading canine body language. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-84317959919504935752015-04-11T11:47:51.529-07:002015-04-11T11:47:51.529-07:00http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=763_1425268809
the ...http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=763_1425268809<br />the list needs an update to include ice bucket challenges. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-58705473023485091732015-04-11T11:27:37.713-07:002015-04-11T11:27:37.713-07:00the kids...demonstrating thinking and preservation...the kids...demonstrating thinking and preservation. Not enough sleep and too much work for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-5016123751227811742015-04-11T11:26:10.314-07:002015-04-11T11:26:10.314-07:00Or even other breeds. Dogs can bite. I'm so ti...Or even other breeds. Dogs can bite. I'm so tired of dogs being pushed on kids. Interestingly, I've noticed a percentage of kids who hate dogs. They've been attacked, or watched their puppy being killed a the dog park. Its very sad...and dog people say that they 'need to get over it'. Perhaps they are demonstrating critical thinking and self preservation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-14741711425386013892015-04-11T11:23:49.742-07:002015-04-11T11:23:49.742-07:00I'm going to write Tales for tails, ore Tails ...I'm going to write Tales for tails, ore Tails for Tales, or whatever it is...Pit bulls do not belong near children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-64417999735471074642015-04-11T11:21:07.183-07:002015-04-11T11:21:07.183-07:00The social dialogue around pit bull attacks is sim...The social dialogue around pit bull attacks is similar to the dialogue used with rape victims. The victim's otherwise ordinary behavior is suddenly suspect, as if they made a terrible judgement by bouncing a ball or playing on a tricycle. Rape victims are questioned for normal dating behaviors.<br /><br />I find it more than a little creepy. Women and children having no rights yet again.<br /><br />This is an ironic DogsBite post on pit bull triggers:<br />http://blog.dogsbite.org/2008/08/triggers-what-prompts-pit-bull-to.html<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-48480483390242225222015-04-11T07:49:40.924-07:002015-04-11T07:49:40.924-07:00Silly, you don't have to carry a dead dog. The...Silly, you don't have to carry a dead dog. They drag just fine. I found out that in some of our National Forest here dogs are allowed off leash. I guess any humans using the same area have to endure it for the sake of the puppy. Dogs don't belong in local, state or national forests or parks. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-70102375325903234542015-04-11T02:45:43.805-07:002015-04-11T02:45:43.805-07:00One of the libraries around here uses a guinea pig...One of the libraries around here uses a guinea pig rather than a dog. I don't know when they have it and when they don't. I just happened to be there one day when they were having an event for children and it was there. The children were heavily surprised, but things seemed to be going well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-2162739716723405702015-04-10T22:42:27.557-07:002015-04-10T22:42:27.557-07:00The two latest attacks on dogs bite Decatur AL. ar...The two latest attacks on dogs bite Decatur AL. are more than enough proof of things going way too far. A four year old being mauled by the newly adopted XL pit bull, and the 8 year old bouncing the ball. When the ninja cat video was going around, I advocated putting the dog down. I think it was PTS. I actually had people tell me the wheels on the little push bike the kid was riding might have provoked the dog. Sorry, no dice, ever. Kids can run, play, bounce balls, ride bikes, ride skateboards, swing, slide, and walk places, and should have the implied (children have no rights) to due so and be normal, loud, dirty, playful kids without Fido mauling them. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11248381049542338892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-36305694665872747772015-04-10T18:12:15.805-07:002015-04-10T18:12:15.805-07:00I am no longer a hike leader or a trail maintainer...I am no longer a hike leader or a trail maintainer. I was very active for a few years, got a LOT of people into hiking. <br /><br />I did some grueling hike maintenance. I helped put in a new trail in the summer of 2012 - you ever try to bushwhack through the woods in FL in JULY? It was about the hardest thing I ever did. <br /><br />Long story made short: I quit over a club insider who refused to control his dog. The dog was a Golden Retriever that was never leashed, harassed hikers, ran wild in the woods, etc... the dog was injured on one of its jaunts alone in the woods. It also got lost on hikes due to its owner's failure to control it. This fucking douchebag flat out ruined one of my activities, that I had planned for weeks - I demanded he control his dog and he flat out refused to do it. The dog continued to run wild until it ripped its face open on a saw palmetto - something that would not have happened had the owner made the smallest effort to control it. I am damn lucky I did not have to carry a dead dog out of the woods that day - the pathetic little shrimp who got into an alpha male pissing contest with me that day certainly could not have done so.<br /><br />I demanded the fucking asshole be purged from the organization. The rest of the team would not kick the guy out, so out I went. But, hey, it was the Will Of Dog that I leave - so its all good, right?????????????????????Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-78438424927455814202015-04-10T18:12:13.440-07:002015-04-10T18:12:13.440-07:00Obviously we agree about dogs in parks. I don'...Obviously we agree about dogs in parks. I don't care what breed or size. I don't want to step in crap nor do I want my son to. I don't want to listen to them barking at everything when we're there to play and enjoy the day. I don't want us getting bit. We have two nice sized city parks. Both usually have people with dogs. I would prefer the dogs be in a dog park, not a public play place. If they're going to bring them two things are an absolute must in my opinion. 1 a short non retractable leash keep them close and under control. 2 pick up their mess. If either rule is broken ban them from the park one at a time. The decent owners will be happy to comply. The others will have to explain to their kids why being lazy led to them not being able to use the park. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11248381049542338892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-55179374906617628402015-04-10T17:46:45.966-07:002015-04-10T17:46:45.966-07:00Here is my last word on the Tales for Tales type p...Here is my last word on the Tales for Tales type programs: Do not, under any circumstances, give the benefit of the doubt to anyone trying to advance the interests of dogs at any time. And, yes, Tales for Tails IS advancing the dogocracy!<br /><br />Yes, its possible it may be harmless, but it is deserved of a LOT of skepticism. For example, consider a guy picking up small kids in his van with a promise of candy: He must just be a nice guy who likes to give candy to strange kids, right? COME ON... Who are we to impugn his motives???<br /><br />After everything I have been through, I do not trust ANYONE trying to push dogs in ANY venue. I have good reason to assume the worst... these people are trying to advance a front on the dogapolypse. They are like the pervert in the van. Sure, today it is just a harmless GR in a basement room a couple of hours a week. Two years from now every library building will be flooded with dogs, the books on the lower shelves will be soaked in dog urine, the aisles will be loaded with dog crap, the property will be awash in the non-stop roar of barking dogs, you won't be able to get from one end of the building to the other without getting bit, and anyone who complains is a million times worth than Satan himself! Yes, that is exactly what happened in the parks, and dogs should have NEVER been allowed in the first place!<br /><br />Anyone wanting to bring dogs into ANYTHING needs to be critically analyzed to death. DO NOT give them the benefit of the doubt.Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-65787843307563044962015-04-10T17:27:26.634-07:002015-04-10T17:27:26.634-07:00I want to just stop the slight debate from the sam...I want to just stop the slight debate from the same side of the fence here for a moment and thank you for the work you do on trails. I worked on some while in girl scouts and have a deep appreciation of the time and effort it takes to keep what can look like a simple path cleared and easy for many levels of hikers to use. <br />I am indeed working my way through your blog and enjoying you plain spoken no nonsense writings. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-3184505684543065762015-04-10T16:42:37.086-07:002015-04-10T16:42:37.086-07:00"The dog Trisha describes is a GR and the pro..."The dog Trisha describes is a GR and the program happens on a set schedule in a closed off room."<br /><br />For now, we hope. My problem with anything like this is, it is the proverbial inch. <br /><br />Read my earlier blog entries about hiking trails, state parks and the like: "Trouble in Paradise". Dogs used to be completely banned in FL state parks. They were allowed back in and it evolved into a Dogapolypse. Barking dogs, dogs harassing wildlife, pee and crap everywhere, dogs destroying park property, dogs chasing and behaving dangerously towards park guests (including me), etc... etc...<br /><br />Good news on the park front is I have been working with the system director and individual park rangers to ameliorate the problem - it has improved remarkably, but only after considerable heartburn and effort. Again, as a volunteer hike leader and trail maintainer, I had better things to do then battle malicious, entitled mutt-owners.<br /><br />The fact that the library allows it at this time doesn't mean anything. Murder by dog is currently legal, but it sure as hell isn't right. Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.com