tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post6051593926237132077..comments2024-03-27T18:22:28.226-07:00Comments on Animal Uncontrol: Dangerous victims, part 1Animal Uncontrolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-44478753232678966522015-06-11T04:13:00.921-07:002015-06-11T04:13:00.921-07:00PRODUCTIVE HATE
Love it!<b>PRODUCTIVE HATE</b><br /><br />Love it!Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-62447647748877215142015-06-10T22:41:20.003-07:002015-06-10T22:41:20.003-07:00The hate is what spurs on people to do something, ...The hate is what spurs on people to do something, so it is worth hating dogs. It has to be a productive hate, a movement fueled by a desire for change and the loathing of the problem. Dogs themselves are a problem as are their owners. Putting a dog down is doing it a favor. It's a mercy killing that no one else would do. Locking them up behind wooden walls or a cage is only prolonging the problem. Leaving them sealed off from everything else is prolonging the problem. Not caring for them is prolonging the problem. Not getting on the asses of lawmakers is prolonging the problem. Allowing this culture to thrive is prolonging the problem.<br /><br />Hate dogs, hate the problem, fix the problem, end the hate. I hate dogs, but instead of prolonging their suffering, I would give them mercy by shuffling off their mortal coils. I'm nice like that. The humans who prolong their suffering wouldn't get the same treatment. They deserve worse.Pumanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-47060423015839465802015-06-09T07:32:22.804-07:002015-06-09T07:32:22.804-07:00Those places that enforce leash laws and barking a...Those places that enforce leash laws and barking are what the doggy community calls anti-dog laws. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-8509433756556327692015-06-09T04:55:27.952-07:002015-06-09T04:55:27.952-07:00Anon @ 1:21 -
The policy in your location is the ...Anon @ 1:21 -<br /><br />The policy in your location is the policy almost everywhere - protect Fido and his owner from victims and complainants. Any laws on the books are either designed to be unenforceable, or are summarily ignored by authorities.<br /><br />The USA does not have a national animal control code <i>per se</i>, but the Federal EPA is <b>supposed</b> to regulate noise emissions. It does a terrible job of that. Given that the current social environment demands that Fido get unlimited free passes, I do not see EPA curbing this problem in the near future. <br /><br />That said, there are a handful of locales that do not grovel in front of the dog bullies and have readily enforceable animal control codes. Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-47174910498483463722015-06-08T16:36:46.560-07:002015-06-08T16:36:46.560-07:00I can't believe the time we wasted trying to r...I can't believe the time we wasted trying to reason with these idiots next door. The level of animosity by the time I snapped and called dispatch was palatable. It's a wonder weapons weren't drawn. Aside from a brief spate of quiet we might get because they were feeling magnanimous nothing was ever accomplished. Within 3 days everything would roll back to normal with her being too lazy to scrape her butt crack off the sofa and shut her freaking dogs up. <br />Now guess what , They think we're rude and un-neighborly for calling the AC Sheriff over and over on them for their dogs being loose and yapping for hours on end. She of course ( I am rolling my eyes here ) had no idea there was a problem. <br />A person who owns a dog that is a problem that agrees to take care of it is not doing anything but perpetuating the situation as long as they can in the hopes you'll give up. When it goes hostile there is the underlying threat of you can't be home or you can't have a cop at your house 24/7 to keep you safe from my childish wrath. <br />I chased one of her nasty mutts out of the road a few days ago with my car. Went to pull out and there it was laying in the road. I went that way and chased the ugly piece of vomit back in her yard with my horn blaring. I wasn't trying to run it over. Ewwww my poor car. I made the thing get up and move and run for it's yard. Where it fucking belongs. <br />These tools actually try and let their dogs out to run when we're not home or around. I have cameras. Stupid and pathetic and the perfect example of the mindset of doggy entitlement. Since they're in most the time and quiet at night we're in a holding pattern. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-32853314517617221702015-06-08T08:15:29.996-07:002015-06-08T08:15:29.996-07:00Agreed - contacting the owner directly is at best ...Agreed - contacting the owner directly is at best pointless, at worst a lethal mistake. Some dog foamers feel entitled to kill anyone who complains about their dog.<br /><br />In spite of what dog fanatics and their enablers want everyone to think, barking dogs are <b>not</b> the source of a "dispute". In a true dispute, both sides may be at least partially in the right. <br /><br />There is nothing right or good about a yard barker: Dog owners need to silence their dogs or get rid of them, period. There is nothing further to discuss, negotiate or mediate. In nearly every one of these cases, it is painfully clear that the dog has allowed to become a nuisance. The victims should not have to "work it out" with the dog owner, who is clearly a criminal. It is no different than someone vandalizing your house or dumping trash on your property: The behavior is anti-social, destructive, and flat out wrong. ANY amount if it is flat out wrong. The dog owner needs to cease and desist immediately and pay amends.Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-82970417884573130762015-06-08T07:47:28.845-07:002015-06-08T07:47:28.845-07:00I believe it's stupid and dangerous in some ca...I believe it's stupid and dangerous in some cases to try and talk to dog owners about their barking or loose dogs. They know the thing is barking and if it's left to roam the dog owners don't care what it's doing. This man was recovering from heart issues. Listening to a non stop yapping dog while trying to recover and the possibility he might be found unfit to retain his job as a pilot because of it . <br />I might have tied the dog to a brick ,covered it with pitch and hurled through that dog owners window. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-5678768868354332082015-06-08T01:45:07.857-07:002015-06-08T01:45:07.857-07:00Here's a site on which comments can be left ab...Here's a site on which comments can be left about perma-yapping canines.<br /><br />http://www.problemneighbours.co.uk/barking-dogs.html#Newcomment<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-23813366208482318022015-06-08T01:21:05.318-07:002015-06-08T01:21:05.318-07:00This is the official UK government line on never-s...This is the official UK government line on never-stop-barking dogs.<br /><br />https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/69221/pb10561-bark-dog-110621.pdf<br /><br />I looked up how to report a perma-barking chihuahua (which is yipping away mindlessly even as I type this) and discovered that the government, first and foremost, is nice to the owners of barking mutts. It fails to recognise the obvious: (1) That dog owners can hear their mutt's barking as much as anyone else can, unless they leave the damn thing to roam around the garden while they're out all day, and (2) Most dog owners will not tolerate people speaking ill of their beloved canine and are likely to tell the polite-but-at-their-wits'-end complainant to 'f-off', or words to that effect. In the UK there is also a (3), which is that if you sell your property you have to declare any disputes with neighbours, which means that a lot of people don't complain in case it causes problems when they try to sell.<br /><br />Good dog owners (and there are a few around) don't let their dogs bark excessively. Those that do are hardly going to look online for a leaflet addressed to them! After a bit more searching I found another GOV.UK site about reporting a noise nuisance (including these damned pets):<br /><br />https://www.gov.uk/report-noise-pollution-to-council<br /><br />but when I entered my postcode (which linked to my local Council) it referred me back to the first site!<br /><br />No wonder that pilot ending up drowning that perma-yapping animal in a bucket! If he's set a precedent (time will tell) then maybe the government will start clamping down on owners of dogs that affect the quality of life of those living nearby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-5733787652916133382015-06-07T19:06:10.500-07:002015-06-07T19:06:10.500-07:00I hope that the barking has stopped. And I'm h...I hope that the barking has stopped. And I'm happy to hear about the lengthy sentence.Your Quiet Neighborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15865179687268241220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-35264351227801056472015-06-07T19:02:02.613-07:002015-06-07T19:02:02.613-07:00Great article with fabulous comments!Great article with fabulous comments!Your Quiet Neighborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15865179687268241220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-50080862106864695682015-06-07T18:10:10.562-07:002015-06-07T18:10:10.562-07:00good news ! So that ends the barking ?good news ! So that ends the barking ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-15274458541700430582015-06-07T16:28:04.358-07:002015-06-07T16:28:04.358-07:00Too bad he didn't get more, but a good outcome...Too bad he didn't get more, but a good outcome nevertheless. Vonderbar!Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-69275931871313354012015-06-07T15:45:22.460-07:002015-06-07T15:45:22.460-07:00Just an update on the criminal dog barker in my ne...Just an update on the criminal dog barker in my neighborhood. He took a plea deal to 3 counts of felony aggravated assault (choking) and 2 felony misdemeanor for domestic violence. The 2 felony kidnapping charges were dropped with the guilty plea deal. 6-8 years.<br /><br />People treat their animals like they treat other people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-83052487360009309632015-06-06T22:34:24.337-07:002015-06-06T22:34:24.337-07:00Yes well, every now and then dogs get out...Yes well, every now and then dogs get out...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-59379744030993334892015-06-06T21:38:41.029-07:002015-06-06T21:38:41.029-07:00Every time a dog invades a yard or house and attac...Every time a dog invades a yard or house and attacks, they're owners are violating our rights to a safe and secure home. I can't understand how a pit bull, or other vicious dog owner is above the law. If a poodle came in and killed a pet, they'd be screaming for, and win, it's head on a pole. Yet vicious dogs get by with it all the time. It just makes no sense, why the deadly ones get so much more protection, and their obnoxious owners. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11248381049542338892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-68517159997438206632015-06-06T18:32:37.268-07:002015-06-06T18:32:37.268-07:00RE: Evidence. You are right - In the US legal sy...RE: Evidence. You are right - In the US legal system, the "evidence" was gained in a warrantless search and a rookie lawyer could have thrown it out. However, the incident was in Britain and the laws there may allow it.<br /><br />Not that any of that matters in any case. Dog owners get to violate all of our other rights, why not our 4th amendment protections? They get to search our homes and cars until they find EVIDENCE that we don't like dogs! <br /><br />Reminds me of an interesting incident on my block. I was returning from work one evening (I usually work from home but had a downtown gig at the time) and I saw a bunch of neighbors clustered together in front of one of the homes. They flagged me down for a chat: Apparently, some idiots were "casing" the neighborhood - looking in windows on all sides of each home, trespassing in back yards. They crawled all over every square yard of the immediate neighborhood, apparently.<br /><br />So, the cops show up and pick them up. Their excuse? Their DOG was missing, and they wanted to see if any one of us was housing it. Yep, doggers can do whatever they want.Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-90106451548970007092015-06-06T15:44:25.085-07:002015-06-06T15:44:25.085-07:00Not so long ago here a dog that ran loose and beca...Not so long ago here a dog that ran loose and became a menace or a nuisance was shot and tossed on a fence post. The dead dog feels no pain. It served as a powerful reminder that there are consequences when you let your dog roam. <br />As for barking. When a normal human being has been subjected to so much stress and torture for months and sometimes years by a barking dog and finally dives off the deep end and silences the problem the owners should be charged with terrorism. <br />Of course this could only work if you have a record of complaints that have been ignored time and time again. Which it seems this man did. <br />Instead of pleading he should have sued the woman and the council and had the evidence voided since there is no chain of evidence. <br />I've been through micro sleeps because of the dog barking next door. He had a valid defense. I wish he would have used it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-67200373496460493822015-06-06T12:41:41.536-07:002015-06-06T12:41:41.536-07:00I don't disagree with you. The dog culture is...I don't disagree with you. The dog culture is the problem. I remember good owners with great dogs as a kid. Now, everywhere you have to watch out for waste, dogs aren't made to shut up and some would kill us if given half a chance. I don't want any of those things either. That's why I didn't perpetuate it when our family had digs. As for Mickey, I feel the exact same way. He isn't aware of his actions and saving him was stupid. He did what pit bulls do, sparing him sets a dangerous precedent for all of us. Putting him down would have been better for all concerned. Including the dog himself. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11248381049542338892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-4512793253134756062015-06-06T04:02:10.257-07:002015-06-06T04:02:10.257-07:00Indeed, most of the critique dog fanatics aim at t...Indeed, most of the critique dog fanatics aim at their foes are reflections of their own insecurity and self doubt. <br /><br />Consider:<br />- Lack of respect for the rights of others.<br />- Destructive, anti social behavior.<br />- Abuse of authorities.<br />- Lying, cheating, and other dishonest activities.<br /><br />... are all typical behaviors of the neighborhood dog bully.Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-58699945807298849772015-06-06T03:29:23.538-07:002015-06-06T03:29:23.538-07:00Some people might find this surprising, but I don&...Some people might find this surprising, but I don't hate dogs either. <br /><br />What I <b>hate</b> is dog <b>culture</b>. I truly despise dog worshipers and AR fanatics because it is <b>they</b> who create and perpetuate these problems. It is <b>they</b> who promote the social norms of:<br /><br />- Dogs and their owners can do no wrong.<br />- Everyone must love each and every dog unconditionally.<br />- The victim is always to blame.<br />- The interests of dog/owners is always paramount.<br />- Etc...<br /><br />These creeps lie and cheat to advance their agendas. They are vile maggots and if I am ever crowned King, they will all be sent to the Gulag.<br /><br />I dunno if any of you read my "Haterz" essay from a few years ago. One of the points I made there was that projecting hatred against a dumb animal, a consumer product, is a waste of emotional capital (in my opinion). Simply put, a dog is not really worth hating.<br /><br />Indeed, I do not even hate individual "bad" dogs like Mickey. I believe Mick should be humanely euthanized because he has no rights, his life has no value, and he is proven dangerous. To me, killing Mick is the right thing to do for a host of reasons, but not an act of vengeance.<br /><br />Perhaps, to some people, I am making a fine point. Fine, but important. This ties into my disagreement with the Pit Bull haters. Pit Bulls are the means. The means to project aggression. I believe that to focus entirely on the means is a mistake. The Miami Pit Bull ban appears to be failing, due to the fact that a little boy was killed by one late last year and the city itself is now <b>adopting out supermaulers.</b> That is what will happen when ones focus is entirely on the means and not the supporting cultural and social causes.Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-56920847393015507162015-06-05T21:54:25.424-07:002015-06-05T21:54:25.424-07:00I found that article around 2 years ago and it'...I found that article around 2 years ago and it's one of my favorite anti-dog/anti-dog culture posts....ever. It nails the point, in a way that points out the problem while also being civil and generous. And it's finely written.Cardinalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-28576989633000382452015-06-05T21:51:17.063-07:002015-06-05T21:51:17.063-07:00YQN, that is absolutely one of the biggest reasons...YQN, that is absolutely one of the biggest reasons why I went from loving dogs to liking them, and from getting along with the dog loving community to distancing myself from them after learning more about dog culture and the pet industry.Cardinalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-79934248603799740112015-06-05T21:17:54.125-07:002015-06-05T21:17:54.125-07:00I don't hate dogs. Quiet, well behaved ones wi...I don't hate dogs. Quiet, well behaved ones with good owners are fine by me. I do hate vicious or yappy ones, but I still place the blame on the idiot who owns them. It was always easy enough to call ours right back inside if they started to bark. The raccoons and opossums didn't mean to intrude and our dogs just wanted to scare them off. Training dogs not to bark at people passing by, even if they're making noise is easy. Training them not to bark at wildlife isn't. A good owner takes care of both situations, because the barking is at the very least an annoyance. Now, if it's a coyote or something more dangerous, maybe a good owner goes to the neighbors with an explanation, especially if they have outdoor cats. Since ours didn't bark unless they saw a wild animal, and were always called right back in, it wasn't a problem. If we saw signs of bigger animals, we would let the neighbors know. The ironic thing is, we had a neighbor who hated our cats and bitched if they even saw them in our driveway, yet they had two nasty, LOUD dogs. We started calling the police when the dogs barked at nothing or anything, and they stopped letting them run for hours out back. Our cats didn't run either, we had them fixed, they just liked getting some fresh air sometimes.<br />About morons who are attacked by their dogs, my newest neighbor had a pit. Lived beside the owners of JR. She claims JR is a big baby and a sweetheart, as long as you're not an animal. That her pit was too. Her ex has their dog now. But no pits are really mean, they're all misunderstood. I hope she doesn't learn the hardest way, her 7 year old and baby shouldn't be teaching tools. Now if either dog attacks her, she's the dumbass defending them, and would get no sympathy from me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11248381049542338892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1547600777592832280.post-63363406006499694782015-06-05T21:06:51.987-07:002015-06-05T21:06:51.987-07:00As always the comments are my bread and butter. Ye...As always the comments are my bread and butter. Yes if you hate dogs you must have bodies in the freezer or buried in the rose bed. <br />I have explained this over and over. I am not the hall monitor. I pay little to no attention to what most of the neighbors here are doing. I feel absolutely no need to direct their lives or peer over fences . Until you start impacting out lives on a regular basis. If you act like an infection I'm going to treat you like one. <br />My neighbors are having a hard time. I have cameras up and being outside most of the day I see their dogs each time they come trotting this way. At night at the first bark the portable goes in the back window so if we have a concert I have it on video. We spent 3 years trying to get some commitment to control their dog. The answer was to get a second dog and let it become an even bigger nuisance. The night that mutt tried to kill my cat through the screen was the final straw. They are now living in the reality they created. We have reduced our own efforts to almost zero to monitor their neglectful pet ownership skills. <br />In an interesting play on the dog nuts own line of thinking. If she is that neglectful of her dogs she must therefore be a neglectful parent. <br />Unlike the doggers claim that hating mutts makes you a psycho.there is a clear evidence that animal cruelty , spousal abuse and child abuse often go hand in hand. Neglect is a form of abuse and letting your dogs run loose is nothing less than neglectful. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305943619486210085noreply@blogger.com